THE TRAPPED MINERS IN CHILE

My wife and I  have been watching the news about the copper miners that were trapped by a rock fall in Chile.  Several countries send in all kinds of equipment that was useful to drill 2500 feet or more to provide food and water and many other life saving items to these 33 miners.

 

Squabbling was kept at a minimum or was non existant. Everyone worked together for these 33 men. Nothing has been mentioned as far as I can ascertain which drilling company rig was going to be set up or who was going to pay for the entire operation. I would suspect that many manhours will or have been spent free gratis without a thought of being repaid. It was enough just to know that their efforts were extremely useful in the rescue of these men who they did not know.

 

The president of Chile is on site. He did not decide to take off on an extended vacation or around the world trip to visit other countries and their dignatries during this rescue. This president and the other authorities did not try to hide their plight from the world. They asked for, and received help from  experienced help around the world.

 

The rescue attempt was well thought out. It has not been hurried. Some of the equipment used was not "Leading edge tecnology." The onlookers have been respectful and have stayed out of the way.

 

CNN has stayed with this rescue operation continously. The other channels have picked up the other news stories and break in when necessary with the rescue story.

 

 

My thought here is, why cant the marcellus play situation be solved without all of the bickering "hair pulling"  and other crap, to make life easier for all of the peoples of the world just as is being done for these trapped miners?????

 

Bill L.

aka Bummy

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Permalink Reply by William Ladd on October 13, 2010 at 8:59am
The last couple of years have been an educational bonanza for me. It seems like all religious teachings are only a farce. Some were probably created as an honest belief of a better life for those who followed certain teachings. but they fall far short of what is taking place. Others were created to purposely hoodwink folks who were not sure of what was true and what was a lie.

Sure more dollar bills will help many of us have this better life. And we certainly need a better life. Most of the landmen must not have a good selfimage to deliberately tell falsehoods to the landowners they make contact with or leave out important details that are needed to make an important decision..

And to Lynn. My land was not leased to Dominion for anything except for storage purposes. So what right do they have to forbid other outfits to access the gas deposits in other places? they did not store the gas from other places in the marcellus shale!



But we have strayed from the trapped miners discussion.

Bill L.aka Bummy
Permalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on October 13, 2010 at 9:21am
Bill, Dominion has whatever rights the law grants them to protect their asset.
Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 13, 2010 at 11:08am
Bill; it depends entirely on what the lease says. If there's a way to drill without hurting Dominion's storage area but East doesn't want to deal with Dominion, that is East's prerogative. They will probably get to your property eventually, when all the 'easy' drilling sites are done. I'm in an area where, for economic reasons, East probably won't finish developing the wells for a long time. All I can do it wait....it's not my decision to make.
Permalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on October 14, 2010 at 3:31am
Bill, here is an example of the hassle it can become, sorting out storage area issues. As has been suggested, East may not think it's cost effective to pursue at this stage. They might even think that if they stir you landowners up enough, you'll retain a lawyer to do it for them.

"Dispute over migrating gas is heating up

Like the leaking gas that prompted it, a potential multimillion-dollar dispute over control of mineral rights beneath more than 14,200 acres in Pratt and Kingman counties has now spread from federal and state regulators into local courts and even to the state Capitol.

The ongoing, complex quarrel between several corporations has drawn landowners and lawmakers into the fray, as well as other gas producers in the region seeking to intervene.

The issue involves a natural gas storage field north of Cunningham operated by Northern Natural Gas. ..."
http://www.hutchnews.com/todaystop/gas-storage-dispute--1

BTW, it just occurred to me that, for there to be voids for Dominion to store gas, the existing gas must have been previously extracted. And, presumably, at least some of the landowners were compensated. (A possible exception would be if it was oil exploration and the gas was burned off.)
Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 13, 2010 at 8:33am
Unfortunately, life isn't always fair. The bonus or royalty offered could double or triple the day after I sign, so I'm not signing anything until it's something I can be content with regardless of what happens in the future.
Permalink Reply by William Ladd on October 14, 2010 at 1:37am
And very often the laws are written by the very people who will benefit by those laws they wrote or the people they paid off to write them!

If enough of us buzz around like a swarm of angry hornets and Dominion o r East gets stung a few times, then maybe these outfits will get the message.

Can we agree on this Lynn?

Bill L.
aka Bummy
Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 14, 2010 at 2:08am
I've sent my message to East: offer me a fair deal, or I don't sign. If enough people send that message, maybe they will get it. I don't see what else we can do. I can't control the offers they make; I can only control whether I accept it or not. What action do you want to see?
Permalink Reply by William Ladd on October 14, 2010 at 2:24am
Until Dominion releases their stranglehold on many of us in Westfield township There is not a whole lot that I can do either Lynn. But I sure can buzz around their ears and encourage others to do the same. Once the lease is released then I might talk with East once more.

Bill L.
aka Bummy
Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 14, 2010 at 2:34am
Have you read the terms of the Dominion lease? Do they not allow drilling at all, or just set up rules for accessing minerals? Do they have any provision for ending the lease? I've read through the East lease, and once you sign, they have your rights until they default (don't pay you), or choose to release you. These leases can be forever, which is why I'm so picky about what I will sign. Some of my neighbors signed very bad leases and are now stuck with them.

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