My deed says I own 10 acres - Unit map info says 6.1 Title acres - How can that be?

Hello all. I own 10 acres in Beaver County. That's what my Deed says, that's what I pay taxes on. I have a lease with Chpk. While looking at the Unit plat map information, I noticed that my Title acres is listed as 6.1 acres and Net acres in unit as 6.1 acres. How can this be possible? The lease is for 10 acres. I realize that my deed says more or less and I have never actually had it surveyed and marked, but almost 4 acres less??? Anyone have any input about this? Thank you in advance. 

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Permalink Reply by LW on July 20, 2012 at 8:45am

On the plat map is your entire property within the unit lines?  The other 4 acres could be in a different unit.   Our property is divided and in 3 units with one containing only .10 of an acre. 

Permalink Reply by Dave Rose on July 20, 2012 at 9:02am

The map appears to include about 97% of my property. Looking at a neighbors info who owns 50+ acres has roughly half of his property in the unit. His Title acres is listed as 50+ his Net acres in the unit is listed as 25. Title Acres sounds like the total acreage that you own. Some other neighbors have part of their property in the unit as well but all of their Title acre amounts are the total acres that they own. The Net acres are the amount of acres in the unit. Doesn't make sense. Thanks for the reply 

Permalink Reply by LW on July 20, 2012 at 9:18am

Oh, I misunderstood the question.   I'd call and ask someone at the company where you are leased.

2s72s0k9mm8gdPermalink Reply by 2s72s0k9mm8gd on July 21, 2012 at 3:25am

LW: That would be my guess too. Sounds like some of the acreage is not in the declared unit. Very common from what I read here on GMS.

Dave: What do your property tax statements say every year? Are you paying tax on 10 acres?

Permalink Reply by Kathleen on July 20, 2012 at 11:16am
If for some reason you only have 6+ acres this becomes an issue for the title co that worked with you when you purchased the property. You may not have really noticed them if you used a real estate agent and got a mortgage since we all just sign our names, initial here, sign again and again....but in the itemized part of the paperwork you will see a title co was paid.
This would fall back on them as far as I know. Someone if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me.
We had a dispute the week we moved in this place about the use of the driveway, and our lawyer told us the title company had to sign off saying we had the land stated in the deed, roadways, lanes, driveways, access entrances, etc., so it would go back to them and they would have to make it right. How they make lost acreage right is beyond me and I hope you don't need to find out.
Good luck
Permalink Reply by RichR on July 21, 2012 at 1:04am

Does your deed give actual bearings and distances, approximate directions and more or less distances, or does it just give bounded by descriptions.  Many people have been surprised to find out how much property they owned after they had it surveyed.  The worst is to find out you have less property than what you have been paying taxes on.  Get it surveyed, that's the only way you will know for sure.  It's good insurance.

Permalink Reply by Tim Tarr on July 21, 2012 at 2:59am

Rich Rupert has good advice.

The deed to our land was in Perches and 1/4 Degree measurements. Used some of Our Bonus money to have a survey done by local Land Surveyor, Our lawyer recommended. Survey results gave Us 1% + more land. Now lawyer is working on new Deed description (Feet, degrees, Minutes and seconds). That "extra" land will pay many times over our costs of Survey and Legal fees. Plus now I know exact corners of the property.

Permalink Reply by Mud on July 23, 2012 at 11:07am

It would be pretty hard to believe that a deed would be off by 40% on acreage but stranger things have happened. If you like I can plot your deed and make sure the measurements work. It'll take 10 minutes. Friend me and we can work out the details via PM if you're interested. 

-Mud with CAD skills

Permalink Reply by RichR on July 23, 2012 at 1:00pm

Take Mud's offer to at least see how good your description is.  I have seen some rather interesting deeds over the years and anything is possible.  Deeds for land that isn't there, descriptions that describe property that isn't where the property was intended to be, lines that go in the wrong direction, etc. 

Permalink Reply by Dave Rose on July 24, 2012 at 3:38am

Thanks Mud. I will get in touch with you.

Permalink Reply by Mr. Bluebird on July 24, 2012 at 8:39am

Here is a link that allows you to use Google Earth to plot your property.   It will then measure acres for you.   This will likely not give you the final answer that you are seeking.   But it may be a helpful tool for you and others.

http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-area-calculator-tool.htm

-enter your address and click search

- click the corners of your property  (go clockwise and click them in order).     

- if you screw up,  click  "Delete Last Point"  or "Clear All Points"

- To move around on the map,  use the arrows in the upper left hand corner.

- zoom in closer and then drag the points to the exact locations where they should be.

- Look at   "Output: Current Area" to see acreage.

Another useful tool on that site is the "Google Maps Distance Calculator".   It is under Projects in the upper RH corner.    If you want to find out how far your property is from a well,  this will help you.

Have fun ! 

Permalink Reply by daniel plainview on July 24, 2012 at 10:11am

it is inaccurate

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