Could propane fracing be coming to NY??

http://www.jlcny.org/site/home/2365-fracking-with-propane-proposed-...

Just how will Emperor Cuomo stifle this permit application?

Tioga County Farm Bureau president and member of the Snyder Farm Group Kevin Frisbie announces Wednesday, July 8, the five-farm family group's intentions to install a natural gas well underneath a hayfield in the Town of Barton. A press conference was held outside the town hall.(Photo: photos by KELLY GAMPEL / Staff Photo)
 

BARTON – A proposal to frack for natural gas using gelled propane and sand was announced Wednesday morning at Barton Town Hall in Tioga County.

Snyder Farm Group spokesman Kevin "Cub" Frisbie said an application was filed yesterday with the state Department of Environmental Conservation.

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More than 60 people attended the press conference, which was held outside the Town of Barton municipal offices.

The Snyder group is a collection of five Tioga County farm families that have leased land for natural gas development. The group is seeking to develop a 53-acre natural gas well in Halsey Valley, N.Y., which is in the Town of Barton, Tioga County — about 25 miles south of Ithaca and 30 miles east of Elmira.

The well pad would occupy about 31/2 acres on Ernest "Bucky" Snyder's 150-acre hay and corn farm.

The group has applied for two drilling permits, Frisbie said.

The well would get drilled into the Utica Shale formation, about 9,500 feet underground, according to Frisbie. "Then we will do a horizontal turn and go into the Marcellus Shale at approximately 4,400 feet," he said.

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Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 5:04am
Hope it comes to Ohio 1st.
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 9, 2015 at 6:14am

two wells in ohio have been fracked using propane gel and mineral oil instead of water ....one by enervest and one by cheasepeake ....both in tusc county  near Gilmore the nettles well and the parker well .....not as good of results as expected

but they said it is a new technology .....they also said they were not giving up on the idea yet ......the Utica formation holds a high clay content ........water swells the clay but propane gel and mineral oils do not effect  the clay ....plus they use no water and the propane and mineral oils go back into the production stream for refining to be used over again

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 6:22am
To me, it has always read as promising / a way to get the job done.

Now, even moreso reading about New York trying to get on board with it.

Giddyup Gas and Oil E & Ps - Giddyup !
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 9, 2015 at 6:52am

In other news, EV Energy Partners said production could begin in December on a much-watched Utica oil well in Tuscarawas County.

The company drilled the experimental well with eight other industry partners, Walker said.

"This is a test of what could be EnerVest and EVEP’s most valuable asset in the Utica," he said.

Getting oil from the Utica shale has proven to be difficult for drillers, to date.

That well near Uhrichsville is being hydraulically fractured or fracked with liquid butane and mineral oil. That should be completed in two weeks.

"We’re excited but cautious as we are bringing new technology to bear in this process," said company president and CEO Mark Houser. "We are in the middle of the completion operations and have completed five of the 20 (fracking) stages so far."

A full review of the well will be offered in the next few months, he said.

The oil window covers all or parts of Portage, Stark, Trumbull, Tuscarawas, Holmes, Coshocton, Guernsey, Muskingum, Perry, Morgan, Athens, Vinton and Hocking counties and the most western part of Carroll county.

Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 9, 2015 at 7:06am

In another development, EV Energy Partners said it is making progress in tapping into the crude oil window at a well near Uhrichsville in Tuscarawas County.

The Nettle 3H well was hydraulically fractured, or fracked, with butane and mineral oil in an effort to get the crude oil to flow.

The 5,400-foot laterals were fracked in 24 stages, and the well is in early flowback stages. The well was drilled with eight other industry partners.

Initial crude oil results are comparable to what Chesapeake Energy Corp. has seen from the Parker well in Tuscarawas County’s Perry Township, EV Energy Partners said.
  

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 7:58am
How old is this reference Mike ?

I don't believe I've read this one before.
Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 7:59am
Any more current ?
Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 8:04am
I believe both of your references are referring to one (1) well Mike - the Nettle 3H.

Correct ?

Whrere's the second well your earlier reply was referring to ?

Any more current news on the Nettle 3H ?
Permalink Reply by markkot on July 9, 2015 at 8:46am

No, J-O, if you go to the Tusca Co. site, there's 2 of them, the Nettle (Chesapeake) and the Parker (Enervest), both being GasFrac'd in Tuscarawas Co., according to the thread..

regards, mark

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 9:17am
markkot,

Thanks much.

Good news.

Anything else new on them ?

J-O
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 9, 2015 at 11:52am

it was within the last 6 months

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 9, 2015 at 7:56am
Mike,

I believe the 1st referenced article you're quoting dates back to sometime prior to December, 2014.

Correct ?

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