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LandownerPermalink Reply by paleface on October 20, 2011 at 12:09am

 If its an interstateline unfortunately I think the landman is right don't know about compensation ?

LandownerPermalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on October 19, 2011 at 10:47pm

Which pipeline?  There are both interstate and local gathering line projects in TC.  Is the proposed pipeline possibly covered by the existing r-o-w?  And/or is your property leased to an o/g company?  The standard lease usually (always?) does include the right to install a pipeline.  (Although companies usually do want a separate pipeline agreement anyway.)

LandownerPermalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 20, 2011 at 12:10am

If they really have no right to be on your property (if you aren't leased, etc), let alone installing pipeline, I'd call the police (and an attorney). Document everything they are doing.

LandownerPermalink Reply by Brian Day on October 20, 2011 at 2:31am

I agree with Lynn.  I have an old East lease that does not give any pipeline rights.  East wanted agathering line right-of-way for several wells across my land and I told them "no."  They have had to go around.  Unless you have a newer lease with some kind of clause giving them pipeline rights, I don't think eminent domain is a card that they have in their hand yet.  I don't think that it is legally in the deck either.

LandownerPermalink Reply by paleface on October 20, 2011 at 5:24am

 If its an interstate line eminent domain will win out if its gathering lines it won't.Your lease dosen't say anything about interstate lines they are gathering lines that they are talking about.

LandownerPermalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 20, 2011 at 5:48am

That may be true, but the company laying the pipeline still has to go through the courts to get eminent domain; they can't just declare it themselves.

Permalink Reply by ShaleAdvice (Steven C. Townsend) on October 20, 2011 at 5:58am

And just because it is available doesn't mean they will get it. 

LandownerPermalink Reply by paleface on October 20, 2011 at 9:07am

 Don't you think all the paper work is done if they have a plan for the pipe if it is a interstate pipe, do you know what kind of pipe it is ? I was told the sherif was called to some propertys and he told them theres nothing you can do.

LandownerPermalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on October 20, 2011 at 12:39pm

Has any pipeline company successfully overruled property owners with eminent domain? I've been looking around the internet and can't find any cases in PA. In fact, a court ruled against Williams Transco's right to eminent domain (given to the company by the FERC) in 2009.

LandownerPermalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on October 20, 2011 at 2:30pm

I think public utility status for (mid-stream) gathering lines in PA is still undecided.  One company did withdraw their request to the PUC but I think there is another pending.  Interestingly, the PA association of pipeline companies came out against it  Essentially they prefer dealing with landowners to dealing with the PUC's probable regulations.

Who can autorize installation of a pipeline on your property - in their r-o-w, without consulting you - is PennDOT. 

 

Permalink Reply by ShaleAdvice (Steven C. Townsend) on October 20, 2011 at 2:34am

Call Lana Boyer at 724-535-3040.  She had the same issue in the late 90's.  She fought the gas company and actually got results.  They were ready to put the pipeline right through her house!!

LandownerPermalink Reply by chris on October 20, 2011 at 3:40am

Thank you to all who responded!!!!!!

 

Bob

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