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Permalink Reply by Brian Day on January 15, 2012 at 1:36pm

I had a thought about a good place to use an application to promote the use of natural gas in passenger vehicles.  i am not at all a city person, but one thing that i have noticed in Eastern cities in particular, taxi cabs seem to dominate the traffic.  If those cabs were blatently running on natural gas, large numbers of people who vote would notice.  I do not know if taxi cabs alone would contribute much to the air quality improvement over a couple of years in a center city, but people might think so who spend a lot of time there.  the PR alone would be worth a disscount on the new natural gas cabs or conversions or refueling stations from any auto manufacturer wishing to expand the use of natural gas vehicles.

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Permalink Reply by dr j on January 16, 2012 at 6:16pm

A little insight, very interesting.  Obama's friend Mr. Soros apparently thinks Natural gas is a "good bet". 

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/01/soross_friend_in_the_ov...

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Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on January 16, 2012 at 8:21pm

 Its been a here a while! If you have never seen a Gas Turbine power plant check this out.

Here is the best example I can think of a comparison. Here is a aerial view of the Tyrone coal burning power plant at Versailles, Ky. Units and In-Service Dates: 75 MW (1953) Location: Hwy. 62, Versailles, KY 40383 Electricity Production: 355,762 MWh (2005), Coal Consumption: 184,000 tons (2005) Emissions data CO₂ Emissions: 468,036 tons (2005) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.043442,-84.848455&z=15&t=...

   In the picture the power plant is on the right side of the river to some more importantly is the plant on the left is the Wild Turkey Bourbon Distillery. Notice the coal pile, the fly ash sludge pits a mess not to mention the coal mining damage. See map. The small pond produced a 2lb bass to me. It’s still there.

   Here is a Gas Turbine Generating station Hartwell Georgia, it produces 300 Mega Watts (4 TIMES THAT COAL FIRED PLANT!) while producing less than 117,000 tons of CO2. Blow the picture up you could eat off that site! The middle sized pond produced a 6lb bass I threw back in, the biggest I have ever caught. http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.338145,-82.821642&z=16&t=...

  A customer in Ohio for us http://www.dailymail.com/Business/201111270126

I rest my case. Drill Baby Drill

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Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on January 16, 2012 at 8:25pm

 Its been a here a while! If you have never seen a Gas Turbine power plant check this out.

Here is the best example I can think of a comparison. Here is a aerial view of the Tyrone coal burning power plant at Versailles, Ky. Units and In-Service Dates: 75 MW (1953) Location: Hwy. 62, Versailles, KY 40383 Electricity Production: 355,762 MWh (2005), Coal Consumption: 184,000 tons (2005) Emissions data CO₂ Emissions: 468,036 tons (2005) http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.043442,-84.848455&z=15&t=...

   In the picture the power plant is on the right side of the river to some more importantly is the plant on the left is the Wild Turkey Bourbon Distillery. Notice the coal pile, the fly ash sludge pits a mess not to mention the coal mining damage. See map. The small pond produced a 2lb bass to me. It’s still there.

   Here is a Gas Turbine Generating station Hartwell Georgia, it produces 300 Mega Watts (4 TIMES THAT COAL FIRED PLANT!) while producing less than 117,000 tons of CO2. Blow the picture up you could eat off that site! The middle sized pond produced a 6lb bass I threw back in, the biggest I have ever caught. http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.338145,-82.821642&z=16&t=...

  A customer in Ohio for us http://www.dailymail.com/Business/201111270126

I rest my case. Drill Baby Drill Buy the way want to buy a power plant? Yep ebay has one http://www.ebay.com/itm/15MW-18824KVA-GE-Frame-5L-5-L-Gas-Turbine-P...

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Permalink Reply by Jim Litwinowicz on January 18, 2012 at 3:04am

Nat gas is now below $2.50/MCF....and that is in the middle of winter!!  Imagine how low it may be in spring. If this is not an incentive for all sorts of industries and transportation systems to convert to nat gas, then it will never happen.

And all indications are hat nat gas will remain low for a log time.  Many companies have aggressive drilling/development plans in order to extend their lease holdings into HBP lands.  Also, even the companies that are concentrating on wet gas/oil are going to produce prodigious amounts of nat gas. Even oil wells produce gas,,,,,the ones in the Bakken field in N Dakota are flaring off the gas because it just doesn't pay to ship it that far.

And building a new cracker plant or two will only encourage more drilling for wet gas and have the affect of increasing dry gas production.

The only way to get a price support is to increase demand or to export LNG.  There are several LNG import terminals thyat are being converted to export terminals.  Don't know how long this will take but I am guessing a year or two. Our nat gas is priced at about a third of overseas prices.  That will lead to a huge export business.

But I would much prefer a shift from coal to nat gas for electrical generation and from gasoline/diesel to nat gas for transportation. The benefits would be many fold, from lower shipping fees to more jobs, to better tax revenue to a cleaner environment.

We all need to write to our Congressmen and get them to pass the Nat Gas Act or something close to it.  I am not a big fan of subsidies but allowing for tax incentives to accelerate the conversion would benefit every living American. Time to get it done.

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Permalink Reply by Milo Hull on January 18, 2012 at 5:31am

I like the home refueling stations Is takes about 6 hours to refuel so you can just plug it in overnight or just top it of if needed. Honda was selling them for $2000. when they first came out

Here is a link
http://www.autoobserver.com/2011/03/brc-fuelmaker-again-selling-phi...

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