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Permalink Reply by Ken A on September 10, 2013 at 6:11am

XTO is doing 2D seismic testing In the area. 

 

Try checking here:  http://oaklandtwponline.com/gas_and_oil_leases 

 

There are some links to maps of proposed pipelines and a water line on the lower right of the page.

Permalink Reply by CJ on September 14, 2013 at 2:49pm

Thanks for the info.  EdgeMarc pays approx. $10.00 to $12.00 per ft. for the portion that goes thru your property.  I think XTO is offering around that amount as well.  Not very much for a permanent pipeline, unless it's paid yearly instead of one time, for instance. 

 

I wonder if having a pipeline on your property would help or hinder getting a gas lease.  I've had 5 opportunities to sign in the last 4 years with Shell, XTO, and EdgeMarc.  Each time I'm ready to sign, they decided they "aren't leasing in my area at this time". 

 

 

Permalink Reply by FairMktValue on September 14, 2013 at 3:32pm

 Not very much for a permanent pipeline, unless it's paid yearly instead of one time, for instance. 

With ya 110% on that CJ !! Key word "permanent" !

That is about the number I have come up with for yearly "wheelage" or rent . May be a bit high but - lotta $$$'s being made on that line. 

 help or hinder getting a gas lease

Probably doesn't matter. IMHO 

Just a matter of time. Eventually they are going to lease every square inch of this area.

Way too much gas down there- gonna take some time to get to it all. Hang in there.

Cheers

Permalink Reply by FairMktValue on September 10, 2013 at 10:52am

Wow,

Not related to Center Twp, I am in Middlesex, but I punch up this site and see a new pipeline thread.

Very strange, Within the last hour a landman from Markwest  stopped by to get permission to survey my property for a proposed gas pipeline. 

 Bit of a surprise because there is one already surveyed about 500' feet away in the other direction. Apparently according to the landman  someone internally said it was going too close to a school and need to be rerouted. Not State regs or anything just Markwests call. Don't know if there are really any setbacks by law for pipelines but I am going to check.

The proposed line would cross my property for about 500', far enough away through the edge of a planted field that I am not too concerned. If done correctly (double ditch etc. ) I do not see a problem. Relatively flat so I do not see an erosion problem.

Anybody out there have any input as to pipelines.

Markwest - good-bad -indifferent?

Safety ?

Lease terms?

$$$$$ ?

Any input would be most helpful and greatly appreciated

I am off to burn up the Google intertubes!  LOL

Cheers

Permalink Reply by Polly Loy on September 10, 2013 at 9:29pm

OSU Extension has applicable fact sheets that are Ohio specific but also cover pipelines in general here http://go.osu.edu/pipeline. Also check out Penn State Extension for PA specific info at http://extension.psu.edu/natural-resources/natural-gas/publications

Permalink Reply by markkot on September 10, 2013 at 11:22pm

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Attachments:

• PipeLine ROW terms .pdf, 126 KB

Permalink Reply by FairMktValue on September 11, 2013 at 12:35am

Thank You, Polly Loy and markkot.

In my Googling I actually stumbled across all but the osu one. LOL

I printed the ROW terms and now must study it a bit.

Thank you for your input.

Permalink Reply by FairMktValue on September 14, 2013 at 2:18pm

Pipelines - wow - way more complicated than I thought !

This is another one that ya better get right the first time - that line is gonna be there essentially forever! 

Still studying - might have to pull an all-nighter . LOL

Permalink Reply by John Mackey on May 7, 2014 at 1:40am

Love your handle Fair,
I have just been approached in a similar fashion. Could you send me a PM and discuss new happenings and details?

Permalink Reply by FairMktValue on May 8, 2014 at 11:57pm

Hey John,

Your PM thingy popped up and then I don't know where the heck it went... so I sent you friend request , say OK and send me a message that way, I believe it will work LOL

Be more than happy to  discuss and give ya my 2 cents on pipelines.

Cheers

Permalink Reply by AB on October 21, 2013 at 12:52am

According to the landman that stopped by my place, the Edgemarc pipeline is going from the processing plant on Hartmann Road in Jackson Township to a tie-in Concord Twp, west of SR 38 and will follow the 138 kV powerline ROW.  The landman said that the pipeline was to be located on the edge of the cleared power line ROW.  The survey crew came out and put the pipeline centerline stakes ~ 150 feet from the edge of the cleared ROW.  The new pipeline is to have a 50 foot ROW.  In wooded areas there would be a strip of trees between the new pipeline and the existing electric line. Does anybody know why they are not abutting the cleared powerline right-of-way?  Is there a second powerline or pipeline proposed in this area? 

Permalink Reply by Middlesex Resident on October 21, 2013 at 12:33pm

We have been approached about allowing a pipeline thru the middle of our property and we don't want any part of it.  Now I am worried the pipeline company will do eminent domain on us.  Does anyone know if these pipeline companies are considered public utilities and allowed to do eminent domain?  Thank you Markkot for the PDF on pipelines.  It was very helpful but I am wondering about eminent domain.

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