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Comment by Ronald L Wilcox on September 25, 2012 at 9:54am

I can see your point,but consider this do you know there are 1013 sq.miles in crawford co.Also,1sq mile=640 acres,and I have read that Range has over 190,000ac held by production in  CC.What I'm trying to say is don't outsmart yourself.

Comment by Dave Siekkinen on September 25, 2012 at 4:38am

Berk, thanks for sharing your perspective. That makes pretty good sense.

Comment by Berk on September 25, 2012 at 4:23am

Lauren must of gotten busy so I'll give my reason for leaning against it. My neighbor and I have a total of 251 Acs unleased. We are surrounded by all land HBP either Range or Atlas also Range will be drilling a well less than one mile east of us in the near future. I asked the guy I spoke with yesterday if they share the data with the landowners, his answer no only the contracted gas/oil companies. If I allow them to test I just sold my hole card for 5 dollars an ac. and you know the oil and gas company will never share this hole card with me. So since it will always be a mystery to me what is down there I believe my best bet to level the playing field is to not give them anymore information than they already will have.    

Comment by Dave Siekkinen on September 25, 2012 at 2:57am

Bob, at a minimum, I would like to see the following parameters tested: Total Coliform, Total Dissolved Solids, Total Suspended Solids, Turbidity, Iron, and Manganese.  Temperature and pH are useful to record when sampling also.  Here are some labs that can analyze samples if you decide to collect them on your own.  They should be able to give you prices if you call.

Free-Col Labs: 814-724-6242

Stewart Labs: 814-379-3663

Microbac Labs: 814-724-6242

Another important consideration besides water quality is the quantity that your well is capable of producing.  Pumping rate and drawdown measurements can be plotted and compared to verify there wasn't a significant change caused by the seismic activity. 

I don't believe that these seismic surveys commonly cause problems with water wells, but it never hurts to be safe. 

Lauren, I am also curious as to your reasoning. 

Comment by Berk on September 25, 2012 at 2:40am

Lauren- My I ask your reasoning?

Comment by Lauren on September 25, 2012 at 2:37am

When it comes to seismic testing you may want to consider not signing a testing contract or allowing them on your land until after you sign a lease with a drilling company and they approve the company and the seismic tests.

Comment by Bob Jenness on September 24, 2012 at 3:21pm

Dave,

Is there a standard, well accepted suite of tests that check all the contaminants that would be introduced if seismic testing triggered such an event?  How much does it cost?  Anybody from Free-Col want to do some friendly marketing here?

Comment by Bob Jenness on September 24, 2012 at 2:54pm

The only reason DIY testing might not be useful is if the proper procedures are not documented and followed.  If they are, then the DIY results should agree closely with the "professional" "third party" results.  If they don't agree, then either the DIY was sloppy or the third party was either sloppy or perhaps not sufficiently independent.  I want one of my own so I can at least get a hint of either of the latter risks, but I want the procedures documented and I will document with photos or signed logs that my procedures were followed.  I would like the seismic guys to pay for both - they probably get a "professional" "independent third party" discount that I can't get.

Comment by Berk on September 24, 2012 at 2:50pm

I do not have a working scanner. However, I spoke with a gentleman today on the phone from their office. The red triangles are the bore holes. The blue circles are the seismic readers. I got on the site my letter did not have the entire user name.  

Comment by Bob Jenness on September 24, 2012 at 2:40pm

Can you post the map here? perhaps someone else has seen one and broken the code.  Pay close attention to caps vs lowercase on that password, but they probably don't spend a lot of IT dollars to keep it working right, either:-)

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