Is Rover Serious???

For anyone that will be dealing with Rover, you are in store for the laugh of your life. The money they are offering is beyond ridiculous. I'm hearing numbers like one dollar per foot for access and five bucks a foot for an easement. Are they serious? My lawyer is handling the mess, I don't need the headache.

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Permalink Reply by Zack Jameson on June 4, 2015 at 6:49am

Does anyone know for sure that Rover is putting just one pipeline in the ROW?

Permalink Reply by Zack Jameson on June 15, 2015 at 12:24pm

It's funny how  "Rover" reacts when the landowner asks how many feet the pipeline will cross their land. They refuse to answer. They want to deal in acreage and purchasing the easement. The "standard" for any pipeline is by the per foot basis. Trying to get them to tell you the distance is like pulling teeth. That's why I'm letting the attorneys/land group handle it. I ruined his day when I told him the attorneys are handling my negotiations.

Permalink Reply by Bill Leaseburg on June 8, 2015 at 2:27pm

Does anyone have a detailed map of Rovers planned route through Tyler county WV? They say there are copies at the library, but I cant get there.

I got a letter early on asking for permission to survey, but no word since.

Permalink Reply by Kyle Nuttall on June 9, 2015 at 12:25pm

Nothing detailed.  The Rover hasn't gotten a whole lot of attention in WV, unfortunately.  Here are the best maps I've been able to find so far.

http://www.energytransfer.com/images/county_rover_map_01.jpg

http://www.tylerstarnews.com/photos/news/md/520219_1.jpg

The official fact sheet says which Tax Districts it will be passing through, and how many miles.

http://www.roverpipelinefacts.com/documents/ROVER-WV-profile-3-18-1...

Permalink Reply by Jason Grecco on June 8, 2015 at 3:07pm

The best negotiating tactic if you don't need the money is...."this is what we think it is worth the ROW and if it is to much money....go around us"  Never just say no.  Once you get the $$$ figured out than negotiate a solid agreement on terms.  Dig in Zack, you might want a new attorney on it!!

Permalink Reply by Kyle Nuttall on June 9, 2015 at 11:52am

They're just giving a dollar per foot?  Not a dollar per foot per inch?  That was the old standard.  The new standard for smaller pipes is around $2-3/foot/inch.  Bigger pipes, and noted by kit, are going for even more.  I'm not licensed in Ohio, but if your lawyer wants to give me a call and discuss general pipeline issues, I'd be glad to talk with him/her for a while.  Just make sure the attorney doesn't feel like I'm trying to get in their way.  Some attorneys don't take well to the suggestion to talk with another attorney.

Permalink Reply by Zack Jameson on June 9, 2015 at 12:03pm

Rover is putting in a 36 inch line through my area. I think a line of this size should hit $150 or more per foot. They are trying to purchase the easement instead of dealing per foot. Their thought process being.....buy the land and lay the pipeline, thus forgoing the per foot price. "It's our easement now....we can do as we please". It's amazing the tactics they use to rip off the landowner. 

Permalink Reply by Kyle Nuttall on June 9, 2015 at 1:43pm

Yep.  Lots of unsuspecting people will fall for it, too.

Try to get them to give you a monthly/quarterly/yearly payment.  That way you know when they stop using the pipeline decades from now.

Permalink Reply by rmc on June 9, 2015 at 4:29pm
Me Nuttall have you been successful negotiating wheelage or yearly payments ?
Permalink Reply by Kyle Nuttall on June 9, 2015 at 6:50pm

Nope.  But there's always a first time.  The only way it's going to happen is if enough people ask for it.  Their usual reply is that, "we don't do that."  The second reply is, "we aren't set up to do that in our accounting office."  They'll also say, "it's just too hard for us to do."  We've got to keep pushing for it.

Permalink Reply by Zack Jameson on June 9, 2015 at 9:14pm

It's quite comical the way Rover is wanting to purchase the easement instead of talking price per foot. Do they think we haven't educated ourselves regarding this whole process. The tactics that were used just a few years ago won't work now. 

Permalink Reply by Kyle Nuttall on June 10, 2015 at 9:56am

Tell them you'll rent them an easement.  Monthly payments for as long as the easement exists, with a yearly increase based off inflation.

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