Why are we fighting the wrong battle? Instead of Fighting to Allow Hydrofracing using WATER, we could be pooling our resources to REQUIRE Hydrofracing to USE "Liquified Petroleum" ..

http://ww.gasfrac.com, a Toronto based firm, developed a technology 4 years ago to use essentially "Propane"  as the FRACING fluid..

1. NO Water exposure

2. NO Pollution

3. doubles production on all wells

4. NO cleanup after

5. Half the ware and tear on the roads

6. over 300 Wells currently in production out in the midwest

7. you undercut any arguement from environmental groups

 

Sadly, almost no one is talking about this

JM

 

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I couldn't find enough salt to watch the whole video. I do however think that this gas fracking could be legit. I'll bet you that the enviros will find something wrong with it.

I'm getting in this discussion late but from what I have heard it has good IP but falls off very quickly. They have to take special precautions when using it, a large area must be cleared and special equipmemt brought in because of its flamability. I believe the propane is in a gel form to make it somewhat safer to handle.

 

New York has not given them permission to try it yet.

actally, there are 3 test wells in Otsego already..
Verticle? Norse?
vertilcle , yes, I believe NORS and or GASTEM

A better link than the last one

 

http://www.chevron.com/documents/pdf/nextissue4.pdf

 

page 7

A side note to this discussion; wide spread use of this technology would drive up the cost of LP for home owners' use.  A call for more extentions of natural gas lines into communities where it is not available because of the cost of LP would possibly result.  Thus a larger demand for natural gas. 

Everything is relative ;-) , 99% of American are completely ignorant that the US dollar has been devalued by 30% in the last 30 days..

don't believe me? if you have some old Bills from B Js or Cosco or Walmart from even Nov/Dec 2010, and go o the store now and buy exactly what you bought then.. now compare, you will find that you actually have between 25-30% less for your same dollars.. ;

they did not raise prices, they cut quantity... , next year as economy recovers, they will raise prices 30% again and say it's inflation..

can anyone think of why the government wants to do this?

Expect GAS to double along with Natural GAS

 

we live in wondeful times ;-)

also, just for good measure, 85% of Mortages in the USA do not need to be Paid... the Banks shot themselves in the foot, with their own greed... the document attached was edited by Lawyers...

so spread the word..

Attachments:

please keep in mind, if you are in NYS, you can declare bankrupsy and retain your home as long as there is less than 100k in equity.. between you and your wife.. and then discharge all or most of the debt

I think PA is the same.. but not sure, and at 74 your credit rating really doesn't mastter anymore, not to mention the GAS lease does come, it really doesn't matter because the bank wil issue you new credit because they know you have money

take a look at these 2 videos, and yo tell me if Civil unrest is coming?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExBE651_vOY&feature=player_embedded

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7HDTDDopA&feature=related

God helps those help themselves ;-) and strangely enough, Lincoln was the other president who attempted to take control of printing the US dollar...

and now they have circumstantially determined tht John Wilkes Booth was not caught but lived out anothe 40 years...

it just keeps getting better and better..

 

isn't it funny , that the same people owned the banks before WWII as well and were finacing both the Germans and the US?
GasFrac presented at IOGA-NY a couple years ago, at that time they had done two frac jobs for Range in the Marcellus, with results proprietary, however, as Mike Knapp says, it did not work, which is not to say that it does not work for other formations, I am interested to hear whether it will work for shallow oil wells in the Bradford or Allegany fields, apparently it works well elsewhere for shallow oil, and, who knows, technology advances, maybe it will work some day in the Marcellus

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