Comment

Comment by brynmore on January 15, 2012 at 3:46pm

tom thanks great info and insight i appreciate it . might you know how long the people waited for the $3-5000 that you speak of? also what is your take on ashtabula being as hot as some of those other southern counties. another major concern for me , with them not drilling test wells and not being a geologist. it does seem like a 50/50 chance we are taking , what are your thoughts?

Comment by brynmore on January 15, 2012 at 2:51pm

tom that really does not answer my question. can you answer the questions or not? not trying to be rude but i have been through alot of the posts and would like to know these specific questions . with out getting into the politics of the situation but i think all these companys are get rich quik companys taking advantage of people in a non educated and ecomically domn situation

Comment by brynmore on January 15, 2012 at 2:28pm

 hi everyone

   i'm new to the site and new to the whole o&g leases i live in northern ashtabula. i have been aproached by wishgard,nela and f&m and i am not a land barron to say the least, but can someone give me there experience with them? also as far as the basics of the leases varying from pugh clauses, net and gross royalities etc. is the only thing that people are waiting for is more upfront money and more royalities from 15% to 20%?

is the only company wishgard giving upfront money? with the others waiting anywhere from 18 months to 3 years?

* please do not comment if you are a salesman from one of these companys. i am looking for real peoples experience and opionions. sorry

 

Comment by john p halloran on January 13, 2012 at 3:36pm

Bob rae no longer does it for free, and can't blame him!

Comment by Finnbear on January 10, 2012 at 4:41am

Clay,

I just applied for a Lake county group here on gomarcellusshale.com

I'll post another notice when the site publisher approves it.

Comment by Clay Nielsen on January 9, 2012 at 7:16am

Got a letter from Wishgard over the weekend looking to sign us up (we've got 88 acres just over the line into Lake County) and offering their (apparently) standard $1,600/acre...15% deal. They claim interest in further Lake County property...time for a new county group?

Comment by Ed Ganelli on January 8, 2012 at 5:51pm

Ah, everyone...Adam can't help but to berate me and others on this site - it's what he does EVERY time he's proven wrong publicly!  Your list of former WishGard customers, Adam - "...and know a number of people that have both dealt with Wishgard as well as been paid as a result. The list of clients include a former state senator as well as many lawyers, business people, huge coal companies, towns, townships, as well as villages." - sounds more like a list of Bernie Madoff's cellmates than it does average landowners such as we're in!

He gets $25 per acre for each acre he signs up for WishGard...once he gets that, that will be the last anyone hears from him, just like those he dealt with while still in the timber business.  Unlike Adam, I've never put forth any premise of O & G expertise, yet the truth is all here in this thread and in the Trumbull County thread - he has YET to show anything I've posted as non-factual.  Honestly now...did ANYONE think he WOULD have agreed to debate me?  He and WishGard wouldn't dare take such a chance - especially if Adam is the idiot they have debating the merits of dealing with a company that doesn't care at all about the landowner!

Your last post, Adam, is like everything you post - one more post dodging the questions being asked of you!  In it, once again you whine about me being after you in these forums ever since I found out WishGard requires landowners to assign away their right to have lease conflicts decided in a court of law - on a LEGAL basis!  Anyone reading can easily see that my opposition to WishGard, and YOU specifically, began long before that!

I'm certain that all your experience in timber, screwing landowners into selling the timber on their property to you to remarket to a timber company, has provided you with a WEALTH of knowledge about the O & G industry!  Oh, wait, no...that experience provided you with the experience to screw the owner of a resource out of the maximum profits that landowner could realize by bypassing bottom-feeders such as Adam, WishGard, and anyone working on behalf of WishGard.

Now to go elsewhere to remind recipients of medications that cause great harm to people...those who live in areas destroyed by large conglomerate industries...those who have gone through the long and painful process of joint replacement only to have to go through it again when they find out their replacement is defective, etc. - just how unlucky all of THEM are that THEY couldn't seek LEGAL restitution after being wronged...( Yes, Adam...THAT was sarcasm!)

Comment by john p halloran on January 8, 2012 at 4:12pm

Wishguard=Blowhard!!

Comment by shantycreekfarms on January 8, 2012 at 4:08pm

Last I new gentleman, wishgard was only 15% royalty so add 2% more to the bottom line.

Comment by Craig Stull on January 8, 2012 at 3:49pm

Mark, "Very well said", You forgot to mention the royalties.  ALOV 20% NO DEDUCTIONS AND  Wishgard 17 %  With deductions,over a 30 year period  that is alot !!!                                                                       

• ‹ Previous
• 1
• …
• 47
• 48
• 49
• 50
• 51
• …
• 61
• Next ›
• Page