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Comment by CJK on May 13, 2010 at 1:05pm
rfs the problem is it is not an isolated incident. It is happening in Bradford County right now. There are incidences of well contamination, soil contamination, air contamination, etc. Yes you are correct they should be handled quickly and appropriately so as to avoid future problems but that is not always the case. We the landowners are being skinned and left out to dry, because we were left in the dark with regards to the "play".

What is really harming the gas industry is the landmen that they send around to strongarm the local landowners- this practice is inexcusable and the companies will not own up to it because they say these people are independent contractors, while at the same time they are telling them how to intimidate the people. I urge everyone that has a landman that is strong arming them to take a picture of the landmen next to their car, to have their license plate visible in the picture and ask for identification. Photo identification, if they are unwilling to provide you with same I would refuse to talk to them and I would notify the gas company in writing that a landman representing their company came to you and refused to give you identification. I would also urge everyone that is conversing with landmen to tape their conversations and tell them you are doing so. You will be surprised at the change in attitude. I have purchased a tape recorder and a camera and I consider them my most valuable piece of equipment at this point in the game. I have had instances of landmen using two different names to identify themselves. Refusing to give their cards to people when asked. I cannot tell you how upset I am at some of the thngs that I have witnessed and I have heard second had that has happened and based upon what I have seen I believe the landowner over any landman
Comment by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on May 13, 2010 at 10:55am
I wouldn't have bought a home on Carter Rd. if there were NO drilling. I took a drive through the area to see what the issues were too. It wasn't my kind of neighborhood before.

You and the others who signed a gas lease should have taken the time to investigate how to protect yourselves first. But you didn't, and now it bites you.

You say Cabot lied, but now you have no problem lying about how many wells per acre (which is all public knowledge) just to make your point.

I don't see why anyone on Carter Rd should have a problem selling, but they have to expect less because they signed a lease...just like anyone else who did. You can't have it both ways and that seems to be what they want. If they didn't get a lease they would have complained, and now that they did they complain.

I'm very unhappy with Cabot too. But for very different reasons. They should have taken what were rather small incidents and dealt with them right away instead of letting them get to this point. Now they are harming all gas drilling with this. But for the most part people are happy with what is happening and Carter Rd is an isolated incident.
Comment by John Reed on May 13, 2010 at 9:23am
640 acres is one aquare mile. So 620 is slightly less than a square mile. Having one well pad every half mile sounds reasonable. Are you saying that there will be one well pad every half mile or one rig ? Or are you really saying 20 rigs to drain 620 acres. I am very confused.
Comment by John Reed on May 13, 2010 at 9:16am
20 rigs to drain 620 acres? Makes no sense. 20 well heads to drain 620 acres doesn't even make sense. I'll hav to look into those numbers. I doubt they are accurate.
Comment by John Reed on May 13, 2010 at 2:08am
I didn't comment on the water situation. All I was saying was from a cosmetic perspective and a traffic perspective all was quiet and the area is beautiful. The roads were not bad at all. PA roads in general are terrbile as we have more miles of roads than any state including TX and AK. We also have the most varying weather patterns. Pa has always struggled to keep the roads in driveable conditions. I thought I we sould much worse conditions.

CJK I cannot comment on pipeline placements. I would need to really study them to form an educated decision. I may take another ride when I have more time. The well placements looked to be within the legal boundaries. I will say yes, they were too close for comfort in my opinion and I would not allow the gas company to drill that close to my house. If it ever comes to it I will make this a provision in my lease agreement or I won't sign.
Comment by CJK on May 13, 2010 at 1:54am
http://pafrombelow.info/files/PennsylvaniafromBelow.pdf
The site did not go through- here it is
Comment by CJK on May 13, 2010 at 1:28am
Pennsylvania from Below, a group that spent some time in
Dimock and Susq. Co. gathering stories and info about the gas drilling.
Those, along with other pieces about unemployment and Keystone Opportunity Zones (tax-free zones) make up a paper that we've just got back the printer: Pennsylvania from Below.

Wanted to share this info and site.There are people downstate that are concerned as well.
Comment by CJK on May 13, 2010 at 12:52am
John:
Carter Road was all cleared up? If you only saw four or five well pads you need to travel on other roads. Did you find the placement of the pads to be environmentally appropriate? Did you see where and how they are running the pipelines? or did they have them covered up already? Did you see the close proximity of the wells? Some of them from different energy companies? The roads might be improved now but I visited during the Spring thaw, at time that I think should have limited to no drilling done because of the road issues.

I went to a Penn State program last night I have some information that I will share with all later today. One thing I will share now, Jim Umholtz, formerly with the DEP could not stress enough, if there is a problem that you have with a drilling company call the DEP, do not just call the drilling company and attempt to get them t clear it up. In many instances the ompanies are not clearing up the problems and as it stands now they have no obligation or requirement to report any complaint that they receive to the DEP. IMO, if you want to possibly get quicker action and establish a legal paper trail, do not wait until you are not satisfied with the gas company to call DEP, call both. Or better yet put both of them on official notice with either a email or snail mail letter. The more documents the better it will be for you.
SRBC is also doing a water monitoring study and they are putting monitoring systems in various waterways. I will provide more information later for those that do not know about this.
Comment by John Reed on May 12, 2010 at 10:43pm
I took a ride to Dimock yesterday with my wife. We traveled down Carter Road. I saw a few empty water containers next to the road. We saw four water trucks traveling south on Route 29 on the way up and a Haliburton truck leaving Carter Road when we made the turn in. Other than that it was pretty quiet. The landscape is beautiful. I saw four or five well pads. I expected to see alot more cosmetic flaws to the landscape as described by CJK and Marie as a result of Cabots drilling. The road wear didn't appear to be any worse than where I live. I saw several areas that appeared to be freshly patched.
Comment by John Reed on May 12, 2010 at 10:29pm
Carolyn, you are correct in a way. Gas companies are attempting to get forced pooling passed. However, the statement "once you lease your land, you do not get to pick and choose what the gas company does. So that means pipelines, compressor stations, whatever they choose to build." is not correct. We all have choices. If you do not want compressor stations or pipelines on your land have that written into your leae agreement. You do not have control over what your neighbors do I agree. Ibviously compressor stations and pielines are an essential piece to bring every together and to get the gas to market, but really if you do not want it on your property get it written into your lease agreement. Just know, someone will need to bend. If you feel strongly just make sure it's not you. Pretty simple.
 

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