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Comment by Ann Ticopa on April 7, 2013 at 2:41pm

Jack, what does IRIS cost these days?  iirc it was $5,000 + annual charge, but the price is no longer on the DCNR website.  Also, I've read that, while it's supposed to include well completion dates, the data is incomplete. 

Comment by Jack Young on April 7, 2013 at 1:32pm

Paleface, if you subscribe to PA-IRIS you can see the detailed permit application for Shell's Utica test. The vertical depth to the Utica is roughly 11,000'. The TBR is just above the Utica, so it would be shallower, not deeper.

Comment by paleface on April 7, 2013 at 1:28pm

http://www.marcellus.psu.edu/images/UticaThickness.gif

Comment by paleface on April 7, 2013 at 1:26pm

 300-400 feet thick and trenton black river.

Comment by paleface on April 7, 2013 at 12:43pm

 Jack 15 k was the depth of the vertical it was in the TBR they targeted and they hit it.

Comment by Jack Young on April 7, 2013 at 12:23pm

Pressure and depth are correlated, but it's not a 1 to 1 relationship. We know that the Utica is roughly 11,000 feet deep there, but you'd need to know the pressure/depth ratio that's common in the Utica to be able to estimate the pressure. Even then, pressure and volume aren't correlated, and pressure alone doesn't tell you what a well might produce. 15,000 feet was the length of the hole, but part of that was horizontal. That's not the pressure. 

Comment by paleface on April 7, 2013 at 9:10am

 Jack why do you say the presure was not 15 thousand psi. which is also how deep it was drilled?

Comment by Ann Ticopa on April 6, 2013 at 3:30am

Essentially, agree with Jack Young.  In the first quarter of 2013, SWEPI SPUD 9 wells in Tioga County, down from 41 in the first quarter of 2012.  Not only Tioga County is down:  last first quarter SWEPI SPUD 9 wells in Butler and 5 in Lawrence, 0 this year.  

The DEP no longer includes well depth in their public reports, but there have been weels drilled to Utica depth in TC.  But until we see signs of permits for separator stations and ethane pipelines, it's unlikely commercial quantities of NGLs have been found. 

Comment by Brian Day on April 5, 2013 at 4:22pm

I'm pouring a wee dram and going to bed now Jack.  Make the last comment and you can win on April 5th.  Is it still April 5th in PA?

Comment by Brian Day on April 5, 2013 at 4:20pm

Oh let's not insult the Potter County boys and ladies! You and I can trade insults. Who knows, Potter County may beat us all in value before the dust settles.  I have said most of what I have to say on this site already.  Frankly, if any damn fool who has not leased yet signs the first lease tossed across the kitchen table, after he has read my comments, Fang fang's comments, and other land owners -even the fire brand Frank Dux, that land owner deserves the swindle he or she gets.  Some of the really crooked clause should be obvious by now.  No one should sign a lease without a compatent lawyer.  If the land owner doesn't like the lease, toss it back across the table.  The gasco will keep coming back.

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