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Comment by Joe Baran on July 20, 2010 at 4:04pm
Any one have information on leasing activity in Cambria County?
Comment by CJK on June 18, 2010 at 8:55am
Notice of Meeting:
Meeting by third party water testing company:

Are you concerned about the impact gas drilling could have on your water sources? And want to learn why and how you should have your water sources tested by a third party.

Speaker: George E. Turner, P.G.

Place: Sheshequin-Ulster Recreation Center
Ulster, PA

Date: June 18th, 2010

Time: 7PM – Short presentation, followed by Questions & Answers, Mr. Turner will stay until all questions are answered.

Everyone is welcome!
Comment by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on June 4, 2010 at 8:00pm
The Wyoming County Group did not do a very good job of getting the word out that they existed. I was online since early 2008 and didn't hear of the group until a neighbor told me. Even then there was no easy way to contact them, the communication was terrible, people got annoyed. Several times I inquired about joining and was told they were not accepting new members (I still have the emails) so I can understand how people were not part of the group when they could have been. Too many issues surfaced, people got "attitude" when they should have gotten help. Oh well, such is life.
Comment by david thorpe on June 4, 2010 at 7:30pm
In my travels in and around the Falls neighborhood I find there are several folks in the greater Falls, Harding, Exeter, North Moreland area that did not initially sign with the Wyoming County Group last year for a variety of reasons. Most are not large land owners, 20-100 acres each is the norm. Problem is most of these folks aren't "plugged in" and expect someone to come knocking on their door and offer them some exhorbtatant amount of money.
Comment by John Reed on May 24, 2010 at 6:27pm
Yes Ebergard. Williams interest right now in our area is northern Columbia. It is my understanding that the Harding area interest is low due to it's proximity to the Lackawanna Syclinorium.
Comment by Eberhard Brendan Carroll on May 24, 2010 at 12:20pm
Thank you for the comments. The operators I am working with are Cordillera Energy Partners and Olmar Energy. Olmar Energy is awaiting funding before they move forward. My situation is slightly different than that of most people in NEPA. I work as a sales engineer for a service company, Calfrac, in Denver. Generally it will come up as a "by the way conversation" with many of these operators that my family and I have land in the Marcellus. I work with the completions, reservoir, and drilling engineers directly, there are no landmen involved. There is mixed interest in our property mostly depending on proximity to the given operators current acerage.

I worked as an in house engineer in encana's office for two years and have a pretty good relationship there. John you are correct, they are not interested in the Harding area at this time. As for Williams I have never discussed the possibility of leasing with the, but it is my understanding that their area is more to the west.

The operators I mentioned earlier are interested in the Marcellus and do not currently have any holdings. A large block of continuous acreage would be beneficial for them to properly develop this reservoir. What I would like to do is form a landowners association in Harding. I would also like to align with the established landowners associations to establish a larger acreage offering. Anyone interested please let me know.

Thank you,
Comment by John Reed on May 23, 2010 at 6:32pm
I asked around for you Eberhard. I don't believe there are are any groups accepting acreage in the Harding area. I may be wrong but I asked several people. The Falls are you could probably get into a group.
Comment by John Reed on May 23, 2010 at 8:33am
Eberhard, scratch that date THe meeting has been postponed until June 1st.
Comment by John Reed on May 23, 2010 at 6:04am
Eberhard, you are more than welcome to come to our Landowners Meetings. Out next meeting is on Tuesday, May 25th at 6:00 PM in the Benton High School Auditorium. These metting are open to the public, and you are under no obligation to join the group. You can simply show up, listen and ask questions. The landowner group is the Columbia County Land Owners Coalition. The areas we have include all of Columbia and most of Luzerne County. The meetings are very informative. There is no charge at anytime to anyone. We are basically just a group of concernced landowners with no ties to gas companies. Our focus is to educate landowners and to obtain a fair and protective lease agreement. The website is

The most active companies in our group acreage areas are Encana and William Oil and Gas. Can you share the companies you refer to in your post ?

If you get close to signing I would suggest you review the lease agreements used by various landowner groups from around NEPA as a bare minimum baseline. Not so much the financial terms but the protective terms. Also, obviously do no utilize the standard boiler plate company lease. You should also seek a good oil/gas attorney. I would absolutely ask any company to do predrilling water testing for a mimimum of 1 square mile from any proposed well site. Also, periodic post drilling testing is a must. Make sure you get access to the test results so you have a baseline. It would also be a great idea if "you indepently" have your water tested prior and post drilling. The predrilling testing should be done as close to the drilling date as possible. Ther are many other protective terms to talk about going forward.
Comment by marie cullison on May 22, 2010 at 5:41pm
Does everybody have a lease to look at? If you all did it would be handy to pick apart. example, ours said 3 years, but, the gas company is trying to find a loop hole in [ part of our court] but, if you were able to look at a lease, its pretty well standard , it would be best to go thru each paragraph to really understand what they are saying vs, what you want. we had a man that added stuff to his lease, what he wanted, the gas company finally agreed, but, after fully reading it each thing the gas company said, and he said cxl.ed out each, so it went back to a standard lease. make since?

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