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Comment by Country Bumkin on May 21, 2010 at 7:54am

Hey Carolyn, yeah, nice job using the copy & paste functions! Whew! You are so smart when you post! Maybe if you just paste the link so we can all see the source of what you slather all over this site would be better?

Marie, I see you have the ability to copy and paste too! Great job! At least your latest post seems somewhat reasonable--for a news article! Kudos to you! I was wondering if you could look up and see what the TDS are for the average sewage plant. I'm just curious.....

You two are so much smarter than everyone else...Glad I'm just a "Country Bumkin"... LOL!! I's not mart enuff 2 undrsand dis tuff. tank u....

Comment by Country Bumkin on May 19, 2010 at 7:14am

LOL! Yeah. It's about me. LOL!! You crack me up. You are no different than the people still waiting for government to save them in their FEMA trailer. Get off your rear and do something with some real FACTS or watch another re-run of "Springer". It doesn't really matter to me, but you look like a fool spouting your BS.

Comment by Country Bumkin on May 18, 2010 at 9:25pm

Marie? Show us your solar panels baby! Since your life is such a nightmare living so close to development, show us how you are changing minds through living what you believe in. Post some pics of your panels! I wanna see them! : )

You are just as whacked out as Carolyn. You make very little sense with REAL facts and it's always the same scenario with you--the sky is falling! If you hate where you live, MOVE! Take your solar panels with you though--unless you think your place will sell better if you include them.

Keep us posted WITH FACTS from your court hearings.

Thanks!

Comment by John Reed on May 18, 2010 at 2:58pm

Marie, all I see you doing is posting hyperlinks from far left radical websites denouncing the industry. You were also called out/upon to post some pictures of your so called green energy hime. You said you had solar panels and that you live your life green !!! All you did was provide a website dedicated to solar panels. Marie I call it like I see it. You don't want to work together, you have been 100% negative the entire time this post has been going on. What exactly did the comment "more death mean"? If I was in this for the money I would have signed long ago. I've stated this before. I've had every opportunity. Get your facts straight. And by the way I have promoted working together since day one. Are you a member of a land owner group/coalition ? Or are you afraid you might actually become better educated by doing so. To me all you want to do is continue to watch the news and read your online leftist articles that are against drilling. You have a choice. Now step up and join a non-profit landowner group. They are not for drilling. They are for responsible drilling and for the benefit of landowners. In these meetings you hear both sides of the story.

Comment by John Reed on May 18, 2010 at 2:32pm

You're right J&L. They talk alot but present no solutions. They badmouth the industry but they are gulity of using the energy the industry provides. It's all about politics. Anything these far left radicals say is 100% politically motivated. I respect people who actually believe in what they say no matter how much I disagree with their opinions. I have no respect for those that talk the talk and that's about all they do. CJK seems to at least be of the mindset that NG exploration is here so let's improve it for the landowner. Marie and Carolyn are dead set against it period. They continue to make false statements to try and scare the less educated. They have no idea how stupid they come sound with some of this stuff.

Comment by Country Bumkin on May 18, 2010 at 7:43am

You are clueless Carolyn! You don't know what you are talking about. What about the millions of gallons of water used for golf courses? What's the impact of that? I'm so glad you are on this site so everyone can see you for what you are. LOL!! Typical follower of your own BS or the BS you read from obstructionist sites. Why don't you show us how great you are and put your own windmill on your property and while you're at it put some solar panels up too. Take pictures of everything that YOU have installed and practice what you preach! Show us how great they are. We are leasing our properties while you DO nothing to help your cause. Either back up what you say up with some REAL facts or just continue to be a joke to this site and any others that you belong. LOL!! It is funny to read your posts though. Factless bullcrap that you mostly cut and paste from your greenie magazines and call your own.

Comment by John Reed on May 17, 2010 at 9:05pm

Amen Eberhard.

Comment by Eberhard Brendan Carroll on May 17, 2010 at 4:32pm

The island in Maine is the exception, at least from the last time I checked into wind turbines. Here is another issue to consider. How do you get the electricity from Maine to NY, PA, NJ, etc? You have to build high voltage power lines through someone's backyard. Every few years there is a study showing that living next to high voltage power lines may cause cancer. Do you want power lines running through your back yard? Well guess what, the eminent domain card gets played by the power companies as well.

When are we going to run out of fossil fuels? That's something that neither you nor I or anyone else for that matter can give any sort of reasonable answer to. Estimates, sure, answers no. The Marcellus, like the Barnett, Eagle Ford, Bakken... are all technology plays. It has been know that there is oil and gas in these formations for decades, the technology had to develop to the point that it would be economic to produce them. Where will the next play be? The east coast of the US is similar in geology to offshore fields of Hibernia, Terra Nova, and White Rose off the coast of Newfoundland. There could be more oil off the east coast of the US than in all of Saudi Arabia. That's just oil. It is estimated that the US has over 2,000 years of coal reserves. Plus as you all know there is a little bit of natural gas (~1747 TCF) in this country too. So when do we run out of fossil fuels, probably not for a long time.

As far as green frac chemistry not being something that you can negotiate in a lease, well maybe your just a poor negotiator. Any one person by themselves would be. But if the general public knows that there is green frac chemistry available and everyone holds out for that to be part of there lease language, then it will happen. So you know there are operators (not Cabot) who do aggressively pursue green chemistry and pay extra for it. Since there is a fear of frac chemicals I thought I would through out the green chemistry.

I would also like to point out, again, that it is not fracing that contaminates ground water, it is poor zonal isolation. The cementing / casing process is a highly regulated process already. More regulation is not necessarily the solution.

Keep in mind the energy has to come from somewhere. The oil and gas industry has come leaps and bounds in the last 100 + years. Look at Spindletop TX where 100,000 bbl of oil and bay gushed out onto the ground for 9 days before they were able to get it under control. There was no attempt to get it under control, just let it slow down. Earthen trenches and pits were used to store the crude. Now every effort is made to keep oil and gas separate from the surface water and soil. Yes, there are accidents, but that is not the norm.

Kind Regards,
Eberhard Carroll

Comment by Eberhard Brendan Carroll on May 17, 2010 at 12:47pm

Hello Everyone,
I've been trying to go back and follow this post from the beginning as well as keep up with new posts. I have to apologize, I just do not have enough time to even keep up. The arguments however, seem to be rather repetitious. Some of you are proponents of drilling others would like to see us rely on so called renewable resources. I would like to offer two suggestions for future leases.
1. negotiate that the operator runs a water casing. This is an additional casing string ran to about 10% of TD. If possible it would be best to air drill this or at least use a fresh water based mud. This string is in addition to a surface casing.
2. Fracturing chemicals seem to be a concern to everyone. There are fracturing service providers who can offer 100% green chemistry for their slick water treatments. Request that the operator you are negotiating with utilizes green chemistry.

I hope this information can be of use to someone.

In closing I would like to point out that installation of "renewable resources," such as wind and solar may actually result in the burning of more fossil fuels. What I mean by this is that it takes more energy to install and maintain them than they will ever produce in their lifetime, so we are working at a net loss.

Best Wishes to All,
Eberhard Carroll

Comment by John Reed on May 17, 2010 at 9:21am

Range Resources - Appalachia, LLC may have started the Marcellus Shale gas play. In 2003 they drilled a Marcellus well in Washington County, Pennsylvania and found a promising flow of natural gas [2]. They experimented with drilling and hydraulic fracturing methods that worked in the Barnett Shale of Texas. Their first Marcellus gas production from the well began in 2005. Between then and the end of 2007 more than 375 gas wells with suspected Marcellus intent had been permitted in Pennsylvania [2].

No geoligist to my knowledge has guaranteed that fracking fluid will not seep into water aquifiers. I have heard several say that the bigger concern is surface spills of flowback fluid. They have also said the chemicals used in fracking that are a portion of the flowback is not the big concern, rather the naturally ocurring heavy elements that exist deep underground. This is why I am all for deep injection wells. Logically the less you handle and transport the flowback water the less likley it will be to have spills and contamination in general. I beleive the total number of deep injection wells in PA stands at eight, but their are hundreds and maybe thousands across the US.

Wikipedia- Hydraulic fracturing for stimulation of oil and natural gas wells was first used in the United States in 1947.[2] It was first used commercially in 1949,[2] and because of its success in increasing production from oil wells was quickly adopted, and is now used worldwide in tens of thousands of oil and natural gas wells annually. The first industrial use of hydraulic fracturing was as early as 1903, according to T.L. Watson.[3] Before that date, hydraulic fracturing was used at Mt. Airy Quarry, near Mt Airy, North Carolina where it was (and still is) used to separate granite blocks from bedrock.

http://extension.psu.edu/naturalgas/news/2010/05/accelerating-activity
The total number of Marcellus wells drilled since 2008 is 1239. If you add the 375 from 2003 to 2007 from above a rough number is 1614. I do not have a breadkown of horizontal vs vertical. I would think the vast majority are horizontal.

http://www.barnettshalenews.com/documents/SumChart%201-1-08.pdf From 1-1-1982 to 1-1-2008 The total number of Barnett shale wells is 8960, 3978 vertical and 4982 horizontal.

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