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Comment by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on May 4, 2010 at 6:58am

But Marie, it is not frac chemicals causing the problem. What part are you having a problem with?
Also, the gas companies are already responsible for creating problems if it is their fault. No new laws are needed.
If you lease your land, make sure the lease calls for water testing BEFORE any activity and during the drilling.
Even people who didn't bother to wait for better leases still get the problems fixed. And by now the gas companies have figured out it is better for them to test all wells before drilling to protect themselves from false claims.
So really all of your complaints are covered and need no more work (except that YOU as a landowner have to be a part of the process!)

Comment by Country Bumkin on May 3, 2010 at 2:24pm

rfs, you are correct!

This thread should have been deleted about a month ago....What a waste of hard disk space....

Comment by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on May 3, 2010 at 1:52pm

This is pointless.
If you really have a problem with gas drilling, now is the time to sell. Values are way up and you should make a killing. Where to go may be an issue, as other states have toxic problems of different types. But there may not be gas drilling. Just don't move south or certain areas out west. Or any place with a nuclear facility, wind farms, coal mining, industry of any kind....you could try Canada near the arctic circle, but the Inuit may not want you .

Comment by John Reed on May 3, 2010 at 1:23pm

CJK and Marie. I cave, You win. I will now dedicate my life to the status quo. Coal is my new energy of choice, even though it has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths. It pollutes our rivers and streams so much more than natural gas exploration ever will. I no longer believe in converting our fleets to NG. Instead lets stick with gas. I've changed my viewpoint from big picture to tunnel vision. The risks of NG are too much for me. After all my 28 acres is far more important than the good of mankind as a whole.

Comment by John Reed on May 3, 2010 at 1:11pm

EB, please read all previous posts. I understand your frustration but we have been here before, many times. I understand the current process is not perfect and the need to refine and improve things. Things could have been simplified so much in Dimmock if the landowners would have educated themselves. Fortunately as the play is developing many of the new leases are not boiler plate. They include protections that each landowner felt was needed from their own personel perspective. Every landowner has choices in this with regard to the lease agreement. It is the single most important factor for all of us. Natural gas is a viable short term sollution to our energy needs. The other side will not even admit it is better in every way than coal or oil. They actually try to place fear in our hearts by posting articles that state natural gas will be 72 times more detrimental to the environment than coal. For some reason they choose to live in that dream world. Solar and wind energy are not reallistically quick game changers. I will at least admit they are great ideas, they have merit, they should be considered the future energy of our nation. But, they are not a cure all. By converting the nations tractor trailor fleet with natural gas powered motors we cut OPEC in half !!! We cut carbon emissions greatly, we are less dependdant on foreign oil, we create jobs, we stimulate local and national economies. So many thousands of wells have been hydrofracked its silly. And these people continue to dwell on Dimmock and try to create fear by getting everyone to buy into their theory that this is the norm and what we should all expect going forward. Please read all of the previous posts. I have stated my opinion many times and I have offered what I beleive to be excellent advice. The other side does not progress. They want to fulfill their political agenda. It is very evident now. It get frustrating.

Comment by daniel cohen on May 3, 2010 at 12:55pm

Dear Eberhard,
We can hope for the best, but need to prepare for the worst. Your call for focus on solutions is the next step we ought to be taking here. Finger pointing gets us nowhere.
Dan

Comment by Eberhard Brendan Carroll on May 3, 2010 at 11:58am

Cheese and crackers!

You are all loosing the point of what this forum is supposed to be. It's not about bashing each others believes. Is it? I thought we are supposed to be sharing information on how to deal with the developing Marcellus gas play. If you think the development is dangerous state the corrective action that would mitigate this danger. We can work together polish it up and submit it to the legislatures for consideration. If we just through out instances of where things went wrong and say "I don't want to be next," we are not getting anywhere. If we say we should drill for gas, it'll save us from global warming. Then we are in the same boat.

There is going to be drilling. Let's start working out solutions to the issues that are arising.

Best Regards,
Eberhard

Comment by Eberhard Brendan Carroll on May 3, 2010 at 11:35am

CJK - In response to Olivia Thorne's comments:

There is nothing explosive about the fracturing process. Her concerns are valid, but when she starts with a incorrect statement it is difficult to take her seriously.

Some of the most stringent regulations regarding oil and gas production are in the state of Alaska. Theirs might be a good example to follow.

Cheers,
Eberhard

Comment by CJK on May 3, 2010 at 10:42am

John:
The spill in the gulf to me justifies the need to be more vigilant with the monitoring, regulating, and enforcement of the natural gas industry. After all the oil industry has also touted before that their practices were also safe. It is all in the way you look at news like this. I sure as hell do not want to be one of the gas industries "mistakes".

Comment by John Reed on May 3, 2010 at 10:20am

The spill in the gulf further justifies the need to evolve to natural gas. Which I am sure is why none of you "environmentalists" and I use that term loosley, have mentioned it.

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