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Comment by daniel cohen on May 7, 2010 at 1:04pm

Dear Shalers,
With special thanks to Angel, we all ought to be getting behind some of the recommendations that this senator is making.

Senator Casey asks federal agency to investigate drilling contamination
Tuesday, April 27, 2010
by Laura Legere
Scranton Times-Tribune
Senator Bob Casey is asking the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to investigate cases of water contamination related to natural gas drilling in Pennsylvania after a gas company operating in Susquehanna County failed to stop methane from leaking into residents' drinking water.
In a letter Monday to EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, Mr. Casey said he wants greater EPA involvement in the state because contamination incidents, including methane migration in Dimock Twp., "raise the question of whether the necessary steps have been taken to protect Pennsylvania families and communities against the detrimental side effects of drilling."
The oil and gas industry is largely exempt from federal environmental oversight and is instead regulated by state agencies. In Pennsylvania, the Department of Environmental Protection regulates the industry.
But in a press conference Monday, Mr. Casey said several layers of government oversight may be necessary to ensure drilling is done safely. And he believes the federal environmental agency already has some power to regulate the industry in general - and to investigate the Dimock incident specifically - through the Superfund program and emergency powers outlined in the federal Safe Drinking Water Act.
He wants the EPA to determine its authority under those laws. If the agency finds that it does not have sufficient authority to protect against the hazards of drilling, it should ask Congress for more, he said.
"I have a concern that there isn't enough of a federal responsibility here," he said, "or even if there is the statutory authority, that the federal government hasn't done enough in terms of investigation or action in this area."
Last year, Mr. Casey introduced legislation, called the FRAC Act, that would require the hydraulic fracturing of natural gas wells to be regulated under the Safe Drinking Water Act. It would also require that drilling companies disclose the chemical composition of the fluids they mix with sand and water to break apart - or hydraulically fracture - the gas-bearing rock.
The gas industry maintains that hydraulic fracturing has never been the confirmed cause of drinking water contamination and argues that federal oversight would be an unnecessary burden.
Mr. Casey said Monday that it is possible for gas drilling to be done safely. "We don't have to choose between jobs and the environment, or choose between economic opportunity and protecting families' drinking water," he said.
Victoria Switzer, a Dimock resident whose drinking water has been contaminated with methane, said she and 13 neighbors have had to live with that choice because oversight of the industry was not stringent enough to protect them.
"We've lost our drinking water; there's lots of gas there. That's not a choice people should have to make," she said.

Comment by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on May 7, 2010 at 8:22am

Or a comet could fall on your head tomorrow.
It might be a wiser idea to see how every other gas shale area has done. We are not reinventing the wheel with this.
If you bother to read INDEPENDENT information you will see that none of this happens with any degree of regularity. Frankly, I can see more depression and drinking going on from all the years of poverty and joblessness in PA and the other marcellus areas. There are more dead bodies from suicide than anything you imagine!

Comment by John Reed on May 7, 2010 at 7:30am

Give us a for instance of the type of disaster that could happen that would kill alot of people ?

Comment by John Reed on May 7, 2010 at 1:06am

I get frustrated with the overblown comments people make. Specifically comparing the gulf disaster. Read below and tell me if you think this is really going to happen here and if it has ever happened anywhere else in the world via natural gas exploration.

It is only a matter of time before we have that catastrophic event somewhere in one the shale plays. However, in the shale plays they have put this hazardous activity in school yards and neighborhoods. So guess what is going to happen when the catastrophe happens here? There will be a lot of dead people.

Comment by John Reed on May 6, 2010 at 10:04pm

Some of the information the writer conveys is actually worth reading. Then he or she starts to sensationalize. Turned me right off. Please not the whack job commented was directed towards the writer of the article not CJK. Youe right Daniel I should not have written that. I'm just frustrated.

Comment by daniel cohen on May 6, 2010 at 4:27pm

Dear John,
You disappoint me. That's not as important as you disappointing yourself and those who look to you to learn. You have a good head and much to share, but your last comment wasn't worthy of yourself.
Dan

Comment by John Reed on May 6, 2010 at 2:10pm

What a whack job.

Comment by CJK on May 6, 2010 at 6:49am

--- On Wed, 5/5/10, tillman4council@aol.com wrote:

Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 11:52 PM
Please post on your blogs and websites.
There have been a lot of my friends in the industry who have found it
necessary to begin aggressive personal attacks on me. Several industry
publications, such as the Powell Barnett Shale Newsletter have had articles
and editorials stating that I am pretty much everything but a nice person.
This activity is not new; however, the intensity has been elevated and it
has gotten much more personal. This tells me that I must be making an
impact, or they would not attack me personally. This also tells me that they have given up on attacking the message, now they are only attacking the man.

Obviously, anyone who would bother to read the Powell Newsletter knows that it is industry funded. As everyone also knows by now, I do not accept compensation or travel expenses for my presentations, and unfortunately those at the Powell Newsletter can't say the same. They are in all reality a paid cheerleader for the natural gas industry, join me Gene...rah rah rah...gooooo... Chesapeake.
Frankly, if the industry wants to truly be successful they would embrace the ideas that I bring forward, which is doing business in a respectful and
responsible manner. I find that in every presentation I give, there are
always a few who show up that have read the propaganda and are looking for a fight. However, after listening to my message it is apparent that I am not some anti-drilling wacko and the picture that has been painted of me is inaccurate, and it is always nice to hear that they agree with my points before they leave.
Everyone knows that the industry has an ugly baby, except for the industry themselves. I know it must be difficult to admit your baby is ugly, but like they say about alcoholics, you must first admit you have a problem before can move one. Instead this industry continues to deny their baby is ugly.
There is really no doubt for anyone who has accomplished even a small amount of research that there is certainly a downside to this industry. If this downside is not mitigated in some manner we will be looking at a mess that will need to be cleaned up down the road when all of these companies are long gone. As history has shown us, these companies are typically nowhere to be found when it comes time to clean up the mess. That cleanup project is left for the citizens and taxpayers, not the companies who made billions making the mess. The industry will outsource this cost to the hard working American people, just as that try to do for all of their costs. The industry wants us to believe that they are a fledgling industry who cannot afford to take simple measures needed to make the shale plays a win-win situation. I think that most of us know that this industry spends billions lobbying to prevent them from being mandated to do it right. Therefore, they could and should do this process more responsibly and respectfully.
They are picking the pockets of the citizens of Pennsylvania, who will be
paying for the mistakes made by their elected officials for many years to
come. This state is one of two that have oil and gas activities, and do not
have a severance tax for the minerals. They pay this tax in every other
state, and will gladly pay it in Pennsylvania, but continue to lobby for the
outsourcing of their costs to the taxpayers. This could be billions when it
is all said and done, but as it stands, the billions will come from hard
working Pennsylvania taxpayers.
Every location that has natural gas exploration in Pennsylvania has
something in common, and that is destroyed roads. Instead of being the good neighbor we keep hearing about, they outsource the cost of the road repair to the taxpayers. However, these small communities simply can't afford to pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars in road repairs; therefore, the citizens in these areas drive on destroyed roads, worse than I have ever seen. If the natural gas industry wanted to improve their image, they should embrace a severance tax in Pennsylvania, instead of chasing me around the country.
As the oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico shows, we are one wrong move from a catastrophic event. As any good Texan does, I really enjoy my gulf shrimp. Unfortunately, thanks to the reckless actions of this industry, it will likely be several years before I can enjoy it again. That is not the bad
part though; the bad part is that something similar will happen here before this is over. It is only a matter of time before we have that catastrophic event somewhere in one the shale plays. However, in the shale plays they have put this hazardous activity in school yards and neighborhoods. So guess what is going to happen when the catastrophe happens here? There will be a lot of dead people.
The last editorial written Gene the "propaganda machine" Powell himself,
was entitled "All Hat and No Cattle" (http://www.barnettshalenews.com/documents/2010/TillmanEditorialAllH... 010.pdf). I must admit that I do not have any cattle. However, I would like to have cattle, but I am afraid they would die or abort their calves, like they do in the small town of Clearville, PA, home of Clearville Gas Storage. In this area the hard working Americans have to purchase their own filtration system to take the high levels of arsenic out of their well water. Most of the surface and ground water has been contaminated by this reckless industry in Clearville, PA.
As one of my new friends in Pennsylvania said, I am the new villain for the
industry extremists. They rally around the Powell Newsletter, which gives
me an entire section of every issue. Whatever happens, they blame me for
their problems. If a large landowner refuses to sign a one sided lease, it
will be my fault. If a community demands that the industry be responsible, it is that Calvin Dewayne Tillman's fault. When people rally around the idea of a fair and equitable severance tax...yep, you guessed it...Calvin's fault. It has nothing to do with the industry that has contaminated dozens of private water wells in Pennsylvania, and is destroyed air quality and property values wherever they have been, leaving a path of destruction in their wake. It has nothing to do with the industry that outsources its cost to the taxpayers, while its executives make hundreds of millions dollars in bonuses. Nope, those things have no influence on public perception. It is only that mayor of DISH; Calvin Dewayne Tillman, that causes all of this grief for the natural gas industry.
If the industry would be responsible and respectful, instead of searching
out a new way to attack me, they would be much better off. However, it
appears the more they attack me, the more people come to see what the big deal is. As bad as they hate it, every presentation that I give is to a
packed house. Furthermore, I find dozens more who want me to speak in their town. People want to know the truth through eyes of someone that has lived it, not a paid cheerleader. I truly wish the industry would do the smart thing and let me help them become responsible and respectful. However, they are going to continue to be the irresponsible bully, blaming me for all of their problems.
Mr. Powell is right on another matter; I have no shortage of arrogance
against this industry. Maybe it was my Oklahoma raising, or the fact that
my parents would not allow me to stand by while a bully ran over those too passive to defend themselves, but I am not afraid of this industry and
certainly will not be deterred by their personal attacks. Frankly, seeing
this fear that has been struck in these industry extremists keeps me going, when my energy has run out. You should see the looks on their faces, when I walk over and shake their hand. So I hope Mr. Powell and the extremists keep "Poking the Bear", regurgitation the same propaganda, because in the end, that may be what forces them to be respectful and responsible, and hopefully those companies that chose not to will perish. God bless.
Calvin Tillman
Mayor, DISH, TX
(940) 453-3640

"Those who say it can not be done, should get out of the way of those that
are doing it"

Comment by CJK on May 5, 2010 at 11:16pm

Carol that is a very good point, but if they are taking polluted water and placing where there was not pollution, that act is a pollution as a result of gas drilling. Then they should not be allowed to use those polluted waterways for their operations.
You are right there is not mention of gas drilling but I will tell you coming from the area, that the dates they started detecting a change in their water and the dates they started drilling in that area are very close, too close for coincidence. I am not saying the industry is guilty yet, but they obviously woud be the first to suspect and not because I have it out for them, but it is the logical path to follow. Burning and itching when coming in contact with "water" is not a good thing.

Comment by Carol on May 5, 2010 at 3:36pm

CJK - I don't see any mention of gas drilling in this article. I'm sure water contamination is becoming worse everywhere but not necessarily because of gas wells. In Southwestern PA, many of our streams and creeks, unfortunately, are already polluted from coal mines, steel mills, and raw sewage that has run into the waterways for years. I'm not saying pollution is ok, but it's not always related to gas drilling. In fact, I saw the gas company taking water out of one of these already polluted streams to use in their drilling operation - maybe that could contribute to the problem - they are using already contaminated water for the fracking.

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